I have gotten emails from people asking my thoughts on DFNS etc.. Well my thoughts are posted on this blog and I also post them on Ragingbull.com on the DFNS board.
Some people have mentioned they just found out about Stockdoubling and would like to get involved with the next pick. Well the next pick could be a good long while from now.
And since I normally find 4 OTHER stocks that are in the running to maybe us those in a different project. (I will still have the monthly project down the road as well)
But this 2nd project would be just like StockDoubling.com Project take $500 and try and double it once a year etc.. I wouldn't suggest anyone selling out of DFNS to get into the new project it would be a totally seperate project with different funds etc.. At least that is what I would suggest.
You can see the poll to the left and make your decisions and I will determine whether its worth my time to go ahead and do another TWIN project to stockdoubling.com
Let me know by voting.
Merry Christmas
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
Wednesday, December 19, 2007
Thursday, December 13, 2007
DFNS WHAT NOW?
DFNS where do we go from here?
DFNS continues to be down in the upper.20's to low .30's. I have emailed the company NUMEROUS times since Nov. 26th and have yet to hear anything from them. I had some questions I wanted addressed by the company.
One of which was why they didn't put out a press release after the Q3 report. It wasn't as good of report as Q2 (and I didn't expect it to be) but it was their 2nd best quarter they had in YEARS! So why they didn't put out a statement saying they were happy with sales etc... Was puzzling to me. The only reason I could come up with is they didn't want to put it out because future sales don't look that promising. I don't know if that is the case or not but they have been a reason for the huge selloff.
I love to see a company that insiders own a good portion of the stock. In DFNS case though the CEO owns over 60% of the stock which means whatever he says goes anyway. Doesn't matter what the shareholders think as he controls it. Which is fine as he has a lot invested but what tends to happen is lack of effort on the company side to give QUALITY information to the general public.
I haven't sold a single share and WON'T until we hit the mid .40's again AT LEAST!! (Not sure if I would then but that would probably be the minimum I would sell some at.) I am 100% in on DFNS it is the only stock I own and don't have any $$$ in my brokerage account to buy anything else. So if I did sell any shares it would be my excess shares NOT my stockdoubling project shares. The only way I would sell some before the mid .40's would be if news came out that sales have dried up or something else major happened.
The bottom-line though is this stock can be bought many times during the week for as little as .30. It is still a company that has a BOOK VALUE (The breakup value of the company) of .24. Also market value of the company when trading at .30 is LESS then $9 million. (That is how much it would cost to buy ALL the shares at .30) Which for a company that should do $17 million in revenue for the year is A STEAL!!
So the #'s are there as far as undervalued I would say that. It just depends is the underlying business still viable going forward. Was it a 1 year fluke in business or is this something that the company can sustain and build on going forward? And that is a question I don't have an answer to and the company isn't giving out any hints either. As I said before I could wait until the end of October 2008 for the stock to hit .50 and still be on pace for the stockdoubling project. I would prefer not to wait that long of course but I do have time to wait. When things look this undervalued I just am not going to sell any shares.
An interesting bit of information though which you can study yourself if you so desire.... Looking at a 5 year chart of DFNS. (go to www.bigcharts.com and use the weekly charts) Around this time of the year should you have purchased DFNS around the mid/late December each year and held it for a couple weeks in the new year you would have made quite a nice return each time. What tends to happen especially with a lot of small cap stocks is people sell their losing stocks before the end of the year to get the tax write off. Then a flood of people come into to "cheap" or "value" stocks to start the year. And DFNS has value I think (assuming the business remains strong.) So we could see a bounce in it if history repeats itself on that. Time will tell on what happens.
Have a great trading day
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
DFNS continues to be down in the upper.20's to low .30's. I have emailed the company NUMEROUS times since Nov. 26th and have yet to hear anything from them. I had some questions I wanted addressed by the company.
One of which was why they didn't put out a press release after the Q3 report. It wasn't as good of report as Q2 (and I didn't expect it to be) but it was their 2nd best quarter they had in YEARS! So why they didn't put out a statement saying they were happy with sales etc... Was puzzling to me. The only reason I could come up with is they didn't want to put it out because future sales don't look that promising. I don't know if that is the case or not but they have been a reason for the huge selloff.
I love to see a company that insiders own a good portion of the stock. In DFNS case though the CEO owns over 60% of the stock which means whatever he says goes anyway. Doesn't matter what the shareholders think as he controls it. Which is fine as he has a lot invested but what tends to happen is lack of effort on the company side to give QUALITY information to the general public.
I haven't sold a single share and WON'T until we hit the mid .40's again AT LEAST!! (Not sure if I would then but that would probably be the minimum I would sell some at.) I am 100% in on DFNS it is the only stock I own and don't have any $$$ in my brokerage account to buy anything else. So if I did sell any shares it would be my excess shares NOT my stockdoubling project shares. The only way I would sell some before the mid .40's would be if news came out that sales have dried up or something else major happened.
The bottom-line though is this stock can be bought many times during the week for as little as .30. It is still a company that has a BOOK VALUE (The breakup value of the company) of .24. Also market value of the company when trading at .30 is LESS then $9 million. (That is how much it would cost to buy ALL the shares at .30) Which for a company that should do $17 million in revenue for the year is A STEAL!!
So the #'s are there as far as undervalued I would say that. It just depends is the underlying business still viable going forward. Was it a 1 year fluke in business or is this something that the company can sustain and build on going forward? And that is a question I don't have an answer to and the company isn't giving out any hints either. As I said before I could wait until the end of October 2008 for the stock to hit .50 and still be on pace for the stockdoubling project. I would prefer not to wait that long of course but I do have time to wait. When things look this undervalued I just am not going to sell any shares.
An interesting bit of information though which you can study yourself if you so desire.... Looking at a 5 year chart of DFNS. (go to www.bigcharts.com and use the weekly charts) Around this time of the year should you have purchased DFNS around the mid/late December each year and held it for a couple weeks in the new year you would have made quite a nice return each time. What tends to happen especially with a lot of small cap stocks is people sell their losing stocks before the end of the year to get the tax write off. Then a flood of people come into to "cheap" or "value" stocks to start the year. And DFNS has value I think (assuming the business remains strong.) So we could see a bounce in it if history repeats itself on that. Time will tell on what happens.
Have a great trading day
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
Tuesday, December 4, 2007
DFNS and the StockDoubling Project
Hello StockDoubling members,
I haven't had an update in a while. Not much is new with DFNS it is WAY undervalued I believe at these prices the bid is .30 (what you can sell it for) ask is .36 (what you buy it for)
Based on .31 which was its last traded price and 29 million shares outstanding it has a market cap of $9 million. (That is the worth supposedly of the company.)
The company will do $17-18 million for the year in revenue more than likely so its value is 1/2 its sales. It also already has .042 in EPS for the year and may or may not earn more in Q4.
We could have some tax selloff before the end of the year yet on DFNS. But I think after the New year if not before we will see a move higher and people look for value and this has a ton of value.
It had a big 300k+ volume day last week but nothing really happened with it. Not sure what to think. They did also make an announcement about a new order for a product but the order was only for 250k so it isn't that big of deal. The only issue that I can foresee is that sales have just dried up. During their slow times though over the last few years they were still able to do $10 million or so a year in revenue which would still put our Price to Sales ratio at less then 1. So unless this stock simply implodes I just don't see it being down at these levels for too long.
Now on to the StockDoubling project itself......
I started the project back on October 31st 2005. The goal is to get 1 stock to double each year and after 11 years I would have $1 million after starting with just $500. Well we started off with a bang and were doubling stocks in 4 months time. Well obviously this year hasn't been good to us but we are still on track.
Starting with $500 on October 31st 2005
$1000 would be needed by October 31st 2006 (Which we had)
$2000 would be needed by October 31st 2007 (Which we had)
$4000 would be needed by October 31st 2008 (We actually put $4k into DFNS)
Anyway my point is we are still 10-11 months from the October 31st 2008 time frame when we should have $4,000. Currently I have 8000 DFNS shares at .30 so that is $2400. If DFNS came back up to .50 the $4,000 would be there.
So we just have to take a step back and look at the goals for the long term. Again this project is to see if it can get done, and hopefully it can but it wasn't a project to double stocks every 4 months it was to find 1 stock a YEAR.
With the wildness of the markets lately their are always good opportunities to look at. Right now for me I still feel DFNS is very undervalued. And unless something big happens one way or another I will be staying in it. Whether I try and ride it to $1 is another story but I don't foresee me selling it at these prices. If something changes with the company I will have to reevaluate but at this time I see a LOT more upside then downside.
Have a Great Trading day
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
I haven't had an update in a while. Not much is new with DFNS it is WAY undervalued I believe at these prices the bid is .30 (what you can sell it for) ask is .36 (what you buy it for)
Based on .31 which was its last traded price and 29 million shares outstanding it has a market cap of $9 million. (That is the worth supposedly of the company.)
The company will do $17-18 million for the year in revenue more than likely so its value is 1/2 its sales. It also already has .042 in EPS for the year and may or may not earn more in Q4.
We could have some tax selloff before the end of the year yet on DFNS. But I think after the New year if not before we will see a move higher and people look for value and this has a ton of value.
It had a big 300k+ volume day last week but nothing really happened with it. Not sure what to think. They did also make an announcement about a new order for a product but the order was only for 250k so it isn't that big of deal. The only issue that I can foresee is that sales have just dried up. During their slow times though over the last few years they were still able to do $10 million or so a year in revenue which would still put our Price to Sales ratio at less then 1. So unless this stock simply implodes I just don't see it being down at these levels for too long.
Now on to the StockDoubling project itself......
I started the project back on October 31st 2005. The goal is to get 1 stock to double each year and after 11 years I would have $1 million after starting with just $500. Well we started off with a bang and were doubling stocks in 4 months time. Well obviously this year hasn't been good to us but we are still on track.
Starting with $500 on October 31st 2005
$1000 would be needed by October 31st 2006 (Which we had)
$2000 would be needed by October 31st 2007 (Which we had)
$4000 would be needed by October 31st 2008 (We actually put $4k into DFNS)
Anyway my point is we are still 10-11 months from the October 31st 2008 time frame when we should have $4,000. Currently I have 8000 DFNS shares at .30 so that is $2400. If DFNS came back up to .50 the $4,000 would be there.
So we just have to take a step back and look at the goals for the long term. Again this project is to see if it can get done, and hopefully it can but it wasn't a project to double stocks every 4 months it was to find 1 stock a YEAR.
With the wildness of the markets lately their are always good opportunities to look at. Right now for me I still feel DFNS is very undervalued. And unless something big happens one way or another I will be staying in it. Whether I try and ride it to $1 is another story but I don't foresee me selling it at these prices. If something changes with the company I will have to reevaluate but at this time I see a LOT more upside then downside.
Have a Great Trading day
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
Monday, November 19, 2007
DFNS HAS GOOD VALUE
Hello StockDoubling members,
I wanted to write today about why I still like DFNS.
If you take a step back and assume today was the first day you heard of DFNS here is what you have.
The company has roughly 29 million shares. And is asking .39 (how much you could buy the stock for right now) So 29 million x .39 = $11.3 million market cap for the company.
The company has already done $14.2 million in sales for the 9 months. And say they finish the year with a TOTAL of $17 million in revenue. Normally I look for stocks that are less than 2 Price to sales ratio. Well if you take $11.3 million market cap divided by $17 million in sales you could up with a .66 Price to sales ratio. Well below even 1!
A 2x P/S ratio would mean the marketcap is $34 million. Which is a triple from the current stock price levels!
Next looking at Book value the company has a book value of about .24 per share. The stock trading at .39 so the price to book is 1.6x Price to book. Yes before it was trading higher than 2x Price to book but I will talk about the reasons in the next section.
Next I look at growth is the company growing quarterly and yearly growth? The answer is a big YES!!
The company did $10.6 million in revenue last year. This year they should do around $17 million! That is a 60% increase in revenues year over year. Last year they lost roughly .01 per share. This year so far they have earned .042 EPS and even with an OK quarter could make it .05 for the year.
This company has earnings. Based on the current earnings of .042 for the 9 months we are still trading under 10x PE for a company that is growing around 60% for the year! If they do .05 for the year that is around a 8x P/E ratio. Assuming growth continues (not at 60% a year but continues to grow strong) a 12x PE isn't unreasonable. And that being said we should be at MINIMUM .50 right now.
That is why I wouldn't sell a share at these prices. If I had never heard of DFNS until today I would seriously buy this stock for the stock doubling project. Again unless sales totally dry up I don't see a ton of downside to this stock. Book value is still .24 and revenue is still $14 million even if they didn't have 1 more dollar of revenue for the year.
The 3rd quarter was the 2nd highest quarter they have had in a long time.
I will hopefully contact the company this week and ask a few questions and get back to you with the answers etc..
Again unless the company comes out with news that sales are drying up I see no reason why this stock isn't in the mid/high .40's by the end of the year which is a 15-25% return in that time.
I wish you the best in your trading.
Happy Thanksgiving if I don't talk to you before then.
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
I wanted to write today about why I still like DFNS.
If you take a step back and assume today was the first day you heard of DFNS here is what you have.
The company has roughly 29 million shares. And is asking .39 (how much you could buy the stock for right now) So 29 million x .39 = $11.3 million market cap for the company.
The company has already done $14.2 million in sales for the 9 months. And say they finish the year with a TOTAL of $17 million in revenue. Normally I look for stocks that are less than 2 Price to sales ratio. Well if you take $11.3 million market cap divided by $17 million in sales you could up with a .66 Price to sales ratio. Well below even 1!
A 2x P/S ratio would mean the marketcap is $34 million. Which is a triple from the current stock price levels!
Next looking at Book value the company has a book value of about .24 per share. The stock trading at .39 so the price to book is 1.6x Price to book. Yes before it was trading higher than 2x Price to book but I will talk about the reasons in the next section.
Next I look at growth is the company growing quarterly and yearly growth? The answer is a big YES!!
The company did $10.6 million in revenue last year. This year they should do around $17 million! That is a 60% increase in revenues year over year. Last year they lost roughly .01 per share. This year so far they have earned .042 EPS and even with an OK quarter could make it .05 for the year.
This company has earnings. Based on the current earnings of .042 for the 9 months we are still trading under 10x PE for a company that is growing around 60% for the year! If they do .05 for the year that is around a 8x P/E ratio. Assuming growth continues (not at 60% a year but continues to grow strong) a 12x PE isn't unreasonable. And that being said we should be at MINIMUM .50 right now.
That is why I wouldn't sell a share at these prices. If I had never heard of DFNS until today I would seriously buy this stock for the stock doubling project. Again unless sales totally dry up I don't see a ton of downside to this stock. Book value is still .24 and revenue is still $14 million even if they didn't have 1 more dollar of revenue for the year.
The 3rd quarter was the 2nd highest quarter they have had in a long time.
I will hopefully contact the company this week and ask a few questions and get back to you with the answers etc..
Again unless the company comes out with news that sales are drying up I see no reason why this stock isn't in the mid/high .40's by the end of the year which is a 15-25% return in that time.
I wish you the best in your trading.
Happy Thanksgiving if I don't talk to you before then.
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
Thursday, November 15, 2007
DFNS CRUSHED!
I am NOT sellling 1 share at these prices! This is crazy!!
At .39 x 29 million shares = market cap of $11.3 million. They have already done $14.2 million in revenue for the 9 months and will probably be around $17 million for the year. That is .66 x Price to sales.
Book value is at .24 so you are only trading at 1.6x book value.
EPS is at .042 for the year so far. Which means you are trading at less than 10x PE. And if they added just .008 to the 4th quarter that would mean .05 for the year.
I look for DFNS to rebound and fill the gap it just created by the end of the year for sure but I would think quicker than that. I think a 20-25% move up in the next few weeks from these .39 prices is quite possible.
Of course if DFNS comes out and says sales will slow down and we have no new contracts down the pike things could change. But the downside at this point doesn't seem too much and the upside seems to be good.
If I wouldn't have bought all I could prior to the news release I would buy at these levels. The #'s don't add up for this not going up a bit.
Have a great trading day.
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
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At .39 x 29 million shares = market cap of $11.3 million. They have already done $14.2 million in revenue for the 9 months and will probably be around $17 million for the year. That is .66 x Price to sales.
Book value is at .24 so you are only trading at 1.6x book value.
EPS is at .042 for the year so far. Which means you are trading at less than 10x PE. And if they added just .008 to the 4th quarter that would mean .05 for the year.
I look for DFNS to rebound and fill the gap it just created by the end of the year for sure but I would think quicker than that. I think a 20-25% move up in the next few weeks from these .39 prices is quite possible.
Of course if DFNS comes out and says sales will slow down and we have no new contracts down the pike things could change. But the downside at this point doesn't seem too much and the upside seems to be good.
If I wouldn't have bought all I could prior to the news release I would buy at these levels. The #'s don't add up for this not going up a bit.
Have a great trading day.
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
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Wednesday, November 14, 2007
DFNS EARNINGS REVIEW!!
DFNS earnings are OUT!
UGH!! I was looking for $4.3 million revenue and .017 in EPS. I said the earnings keeping the expenses down was key.
Well they beat the revenue #'s they came in at $4.6 million revenue but got HAMMERED on the EPS only giving .006 (that is 6/10's of a penny)
So for the year they have $14 million in revenue and about .042 in EPS for the year. They won't do the .07 EPS that I was hoping for that is for sure.
They do have .04+ for the year so far in EPS. So if the stock sells off tomorrow I wouldn't expect it to be HUGE. Yes it could get into the .40's but I wouldn't think .30's would be in the mix. By no means do I think its a $1 stock at this point. But I don't think its a .30 stock either.
I may sell out of some of my EXTRA shares tomorrow though I doubt I will sell my stockdoubling shares. I may be in this stock for a good while yet. Next earnings release won't be until the end of MARCH 2008! So we have over 4 months to wait for the 10K report. Hopefully in the meantime they will have some positive news releases in the mean time.
I will now give some Positives and negatives from the report....
Negatives
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Backlog is down to $5 million down $2 million from the last quarter.
Local military may only account for $1 million this current Q4
Margins got hit in a BIG WAY!
No new information on additional orders.
May take some time to get some real returns from the stock.
Positives
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Book value of .24. So a .48 stock is just 2x book still very reasonable
Revenue continues to grow. $14 million so far should do at least $17 million for year.
With a $17 million year .58 stock would mean 1 to 1 price to sales ratio.
$17 million in revenue would also mean roughly 60% growth over 2006
.042 EPS for the year. Not what I had hoped but a nice base to stop the stock from falling too far.
Local Military seems strong.
If the orders dry up this stock could go much lower. If they come out with comments they could see some growth next year etc.. Then we still have some good life in the stock. It is still a good valuation on a Price to sales, Price to Book and P/E ratio. So I don't see a ton of downside unless of course the sales dry up. I don't see a ton of upside though either unless they come out with news releases about new orders etc..
We will see how the stock reacts tomorrow.
I would think the company would come out with a news release on the Q3 report sometime tomorrow before the bell.
Have a good trading day
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
UGH!! I was looking for $4.3 million revenue and .017 in EPS. I said the earnings keeping the expenses down was key.
Well they beat the revenue #'s they came in at $4.6 million revenue but got HAMMERED on the EPS only giving .006 (that is 6/10's of a penny)
So for the year they have $14 million in revenue and about .042 in EPS for the year. They won't do the .07 EPS that I was hoping for that is for sure.
They do have .04+ for the year so far in EPS. So if the stock sells off tomorrow I wouldn't expect it to be HUGE. Yes it could get into the .40's but I wouldn't think .30's would be in the mix. By no means do I think its a $1 stock at this point. But I don't think its a .30 stock either.
I may sell out of some of my EXTRA shares tomorrow though I doubt I will sell my stockdoubling shares. I may be in this stock for a good while yet. Next earnings release won't be until the end of MARCH 2008! So we have over 4 months to wait for the 10K report. Hopefully in the meantime they will have some positive news releases in the mean time.
I will now give some Positives and negatives from the report....
Negatives
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Backlog is down to $5 million down $2 million from the last quarter.
Local military may only account for $1 million this current Q4
Margins got hit in a BIG WAY!
No new information on additional orders.
May take some time to get some real returns from the stock.
Positives
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Book value of .24. So a .48 stock is just 2x book still very reasonable
Revenue continues to grow. $14 million so far should do at least $17 million for year.
With a $17 million year .58 stock would mean 1 to 1 price to sales ratio.
$17 million in revenue would also mean roughly 60% growth over 2006
.042 EPS for the year. Not what I had hoped but a nice base to stop the stock from falling too far.
Local Military seems strong.
If the orders dry up this stock could go much lower. If they come out with comments they could see some growth next year etc.. Then we still have some good life in the stock. It is still a good valuation on a Price to sales, Price to Book and P/E ratio. So I don't see a ton of downside unless of course the sales dry up. I don't see a ton of upside though either unless they come out with news releases about new orders etc..
We will see how the stock reacts tomorrow.
I would think the company would come out with a news release on the Q3 report sometime tomorrow before the bell.
Have a good trading day
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
DFNS EARNINGS TODAY???
Today the day for DFNS?
On Oct 5th on the blog I talked about DFNS needing to put out a release about a new order to get the momentum going ahead of the earnings release. Obviously that didn't happen.
Today is Nov. 14th I would think that the earnings release would be sometime today. Either before the market opens, during market opening, or as they tend to do after the market closes. The reason to do it after the market today is to still have 2 trading days for the week to trade the news. If they dumped it after tomorrow's close than all we would have left is Friday to trade. And I would assume that the quarter would be bad.
They have been late in the past as well but they tend to give revenue and earnings #'s in the late filing report. Hopefully we won't see that though.
I am looking for $4.3 million in revenue and .017 in EPS.
The stock price has fallen a bit to the low .50's. I picked up some more yesterday at .53. I have almost 19,000 shares of DFNS and it is my only holding. I may sell out of some of those shares depending on the quarterly report.
I highly doubt that I would sell out of my DFNS stockdoubling shares no matter where the DFNS stock goes (up or down) based on this quarters #'s. Unless they say they see a major slow down in growth coming even a fall into the low .40's or a little worse wouldn't scare me out probably. But I will keep you posted.
Those that aren't in DFNS. I think this offers good risk/reward at these levels. A person can basically buy the stock for .03 more than what I did 6 months ago. And there is a LOT more good news in the stocks in that 6 months. If another good quarter comes out I think this stock reaches .70+ sometime next week. If its bad news I think it could fall to the high .30's but would be a steal down there. (Assuming they aren't slowing growth in a major way which based on their comments doesn't seem to be the case.) I DON'T MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS!
I will update you when the earnings come out and my thoughts on it all.
Have a great day
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
On Oct 5th on the blog I talked about DFNS needing to put out a release about a new order to get the momentum going ahead of the earnings release. Obviously that didn't happen.
Today is Nov. 14th I would think that the earnings release would be sometime today. Either before the market opens, during market opening, or as they tend to do after the market closes. The reason to do it after the market today is to still have 2 trading days for the week to trade the news. If they dumped it after tomorrow's close than all we would have left is Friday to trade. And I would assume that the quarter would be bad.
They have been late in the past as well but they tend to give revenue and earnings #'s in the late filing report. Hopefully we won't see that though.
I am looking for $4.3 million in revenue and .017 in EPS.
The stock price has fallen a bit to the low .50's. I picked up some more yesterday at .53. I have almost 19,000 shares of DFNS and it is my only holding. I may sell out of some of those shares depending on the quarterly report.
I highly doubt that I would sell out of my DFNS stockdoubling shares no matter where the DFNS stock goes (up or down) based on this quarters #'s. Unless they say they see a major slow down in growth coming even a fall into the low .40's or a little worse wouldn't scare me out probably. But I will keep you posted.
Those that aren't in DFNS. I think this offers good risk/reward at these levels. A person can basically buy the stock for .03 more than what I did 6 months ago. And there is a LOT more good news in the stocks in that 6 months. If another good quarter comes out I think this stock reaches .70+ sometime next week. If its bad news I think it could fall to the high .30's but would be a steal down there. (Assuming they aren't slowing growth in a major way which based on their comments doesn't seem to be the case.) I DON'T MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS!
I will update you when the earnings come out and my thoughts on it all.
Have a great day
Steve Hoven
alleycatnews@alleycatnews.net
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